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Sunday, September 11, 2005

Shariah or no Shariah?

Should we allow the controversial Shariah Law to be implemented (I mean in places where its laws are yet to be contaminated affected)?

It really depends on whom you ask ...

If you ask the Muslim Extremists ie. Taliban, Jihadis, Beheadis, Hijabis etc ...

YES is obviously the only answer. Simple, unambiguous and straightforward ... No second thought.

And if you ask the Moderate Muslims like some of the famous politicians of the Islamic world such as Dr. Mahathir and Gen Musharaf, the answer can be as complex as rocket science.

Guess they won't have an answer not until due consideration is given to all the Three Material Truth: Power, Money and Fame.

Lastly, if you were to ask Liberal (or Modern) Muslims like Irshad Manji (one of my dream girl) or Salman Rushdie (his head is still being hunted by the Grand Ayatollah for writing a novel called 'Satanic Verses'!) ...

Rest assured this will be their answer:

F@#$ The Nonsense!

8 Comments:

Blogger postliberal said...

I'm not sure about any of those positions - from what you say there one seems inhumane, one seems too pragmatically compromised, and one seems unthinkingly rejectionist. I find the various reformist movements both credible and attractive - some of which are alluded to in this excellent article by Ziauddin Sardar. It's definitely worth reading!

What says our Baghdad commenter?

9:12 PM  
Blogger La Bona said...

Thanks PL, I have just read "Reform is Islam's best kept secret" ... interesting.

The reformation of Islam has just proven another point: Evolution is not only real, it is also a must! Just like tax and death, it is one of the certainties for now.

Looks like Darwin and I are right all along. Darwin is right about the biological part while my emphasis on the spiritual bit of evolution appears to be valid.

What do you think of rewriting of the Bible? Or perhaps to create an addition that complement or perhaps supersede both the Old and New Testament? One that endorse evolution? One that give greelight to emryo cloning (so that the blinds can see real colors), one that give people an idea what to expect at least 100 billions years from now?

Let's continue to evolve ... not going back to become monkey but in a positive direction.

10:20 AM  
Blogger Safiyyah said...

The issue is far more nuanced than most people seem to realize. See Marian Boyd's report for a summary of the debates going on. I happen to support faith-based arbitration, as do most mainstream Muslims. I've written on the issue extensively. You can read about it on my blog if you'd like.

12:52 PM  
Blogger La Bona said...

Breaking News!

RIP To Shariah!

McGuinty said ‘F@#$ Off’ to all religious laws

Jewish groups upset after McGuinty decides to scrap faith-based arbitration

TORONTO (CP) - Jewish groups want a meeting with Premier Dalton McGuinty after his surprise announcement that Ontario will outlaw all religious arbitration to settle family law disputes.
McGuinty told The Canadian Press on Sunday that Ontario would not allow a centuries-old set of Muslim rules known as Shariah law to be used to settle family cases through arbitration.

But McGuinty caught everyone off guard when he also announced he would introduce legislation to end other faith-based arbitration, which has been allowed since 1991.

More here …

4:31 PM  
Blogger postliberal said...

I don't think evolution is the best term to use in describing religious change, development is closer to appropriate - only for the associations of the former with competition and so on. To aknowledge that things change should be kept to one side from darwinism wrangings over in the USA.

In Judaism we have the Talmud, which showed the religion finding a way to dynamically engage with its scriptures - a continuous process of interpretative devotion grounded in thier everyday world. In my own Christrianity, we have the notion of keeping a balance of scripture, tradition, and experience in the faith. Ideally the three are kept in balance, informing the other - providing callibration and innovative ways to express the Christianity without tipping into crazyness. But then, what that means is up for interpretation, understandabley.

7:31 PM  
Blogger La Bona said...

ev·o·lu·tion (ĕv'ə-lū'shən, ē'və-)
n.

A gradual process in which something changes into a different and usually more complex or better form. See synonyms at development.

The process of developing.
Gradual development.


More at Answers.com ...

Glad to hear that you are one of the very few from the faithful community that think evolution/development is a reality.

Let's continue with the topic ...

10:41 AM  
Blogger La Bona said...

"In Judaism we have the Talmud, which showed the religion finding a way to dynamically engage with its scriptures - a continuous process of interpretative devotion grounded in thier everyday world."

Are you a Jew? Anyway, I accept this paragraph because from what I know, the Jewish believes especially the narrative part which they call 'Oral Laws' are so Mickey Mouse even they themselves have doubt over it. So as another living proof of evolution, the rabbis have to resort to interpreting the books and oral laws based upon discussions among the rabbis and hence, the term 'Rabbinic' is born.

In short, Judaism has evolved to become a Rabbi-based faith but Islam and Christianity remain in in the coccoon of 'book-based' world.

"In my own Christrianity, we have the notion of keeping a balance of scripture, tradition, and experience in the faith. Ideally the three are kept in balance, informing the other - providing callibration and innovative ways to express the Christianity without tipping into crazyness."

How so? Every Christian that I know of say Bible is the complete whole truth (so are Muslims/Koran), there is no need for anything else but literal interpretation of the existing books.

7:36 PM  
Blogger postliberal said...

“Glad to hear that you are one of the very few from the faithful community that think evolution/development is a reality.”

Thanks for tha affirmation...but, one of the few? In this country, and Europe in general, the acceptance of evolution as a scientific theory is pretty much the norm amongst the Christian communities, and beyond. Things are a little different this side of the Atlantic in this way, as with so many others. But then, having said that, there’s a lot more contention about change in general, with regard to religion – how much is encouraged, accepted, or opposed, and what kinds.

"In my own Christrianity, we have the notion of keeping a balance of scripture, tradition, and experience in the faith. Ideally the three are kept in balance, informing the other - providing callibration and innovative ways to express the Christianity without tipping into crazyness."

“How so? Every Christian that I know of say Bible is the complete whole truth (so are Muslims/Koran), there is no need for anything else but literal interpretation of the existing books.”W

ell those who talk and live in terms of “only the bible” are a minority, geographically and historically. It’s also tremendously unrealistic to assume that you can read sacred text in an isolated way – all reading is done through the locus of our own perceptions and worldviews, which are a composite of how we’ve experienced life and the norms of our communities. A Church, or denomination, will have it’s particular perspective, and way of interpreting, the bible and other religious texts. It’s just that it’s better to admit so, and that most Christians have done so, and keep it alive and healthy – rather than sit in denial.

11:17 AM  

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